hedge fund simulation game you knoew off?
Saturday, November 9, 2013
, Posted by Ryanita at 9:59 PM
Alex Reyes
I really want to practice owning a hedge fund and stuff. And wondering if there was a game that let you own a hedge fund virtually and run it virtually. Like a simulation.
Answer
Do you have any idea what hedge funds do? You can't simulate running a hedge fund.
Edit: "Of course, they don't just dabble in stocks. Forex, credit, commodity, venture capital are all other markets that hedge funds speculate in." Some of the securities held at hedge funds I have particpated in include defaulted lease obligations on aircraft, bankruptcy claims in Venezuelan courts, power dellivery rights, unfunded German bonding facilities of bankrupt companies, all manner of custom options including rainbow and basket options, a ground photography satellite, toxic mortgage derivatives, etc, etc. How are you going to simulate that?
Edit: good thing that some geniuses here give me thumbs down - perhaps they know how to simulate hedge funds. Lol. I'll bet they have never been through the front door of a hedge fund.
Do you have any idea what hedge funds do? You can't simulate running a hedge fund.
Edit: "Of course, they don't just dabble in stocks. Forex, credit, commodity, venture capital are all other markets that hedge funds speculate in." Some of the securities held at hedge funds I have particpated in include defaulted lease obligations on aircraft, bankruptcy claims in Venezuelan courts, power dellivery rights, unfunded German bonding facilities of bankrupt companies, all manner of custom options including rainbow and basket options, a ground photography satellite, toxic mortgage derivatives, etc, etc. How are you going to simulate that?
Edit: good thing that some geniuses here give me thumbs down - perhaps they know how to simulate hedge funds. Lol. I'll bet they have never been through the front door of a hedge fund.
Normal Leverage of a Hedge fund or famous traders?
Meg
Where can I find information about average leverage used by hedge funds or famous traders like soros? I'm particulary interested in forex/equity areas.
Answer
I can tell you some ranges but I think most data is a closely guarded secret for hedge funds that are currently active. Thats quite sensitive info that can be used to hurt highly levereged funds.
Most investment banks right now were at between 8:1 and 12:1 leverage. Some of them, esp Goldman Sachs are basically hedge funds in terms of operations. Bear Stearns was at about 10:1 when it blew up.
There are some hedge funds operating at about 20X leverage but that is REALLY pushing it and it applies prob exclusively to Forex trading and arbitrage since they have the smallest moves to make a profit.
Finally the famous LTCM fund which blew up had 35:1 leverage the most I have ever heard of and they nearly destroyed the US bond markets single handedly.
The appropriate amount of leverage to use is one of the hardest things to find out since it depends on the market, the volatility, the economic environment, the liquidity, the spreads in the market, and a whole host of other issues. I personally doubt most funds and traders and operate at more than 15X leverage without running into serious problems in the long term.
I can tell you some ranges but I think most data is a closely guarded secret for hedge funds that are currently active. Thats quite sensitive info that can be used to hurt highly levereged funds.
Most investment banks right now were at between 8:1 and 12:1 leverage. Some of them, esp Goldman Sachs are basically hedge funds in terms of operations. Bear Stearns was at about 10:1 when it blew up.
There are some hedge funds operating at about 20X leverage but that is REALLY pushing it and it applies prob exclusively to Forex trading and arbitrage since they have the smallest moves to make a profit.
Finally the famous LTCM fund which blew up had 35:1 leverage the most I have ever heard of and they nearly destroyed the US bond markets single handedly.
The appropriate amount of leverage to use is one of the hardest things to find out since it depends on the market, the volatility, the economic environment, the liquidity, the spreads in the market, and a whole host of other issues. I personally doubt most funds and traders and operate at more than 15X leverage without running into serious problems in the long term.
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